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    Subject:      Re: can't see KDE (response: foetal mini-HOWTO for KDE on Hurricane)
    From:         charlie@antipope.antipope.org (Charlie Stross)
    Date:         1998/01/06
    Message-ID:   <19980105214212.02519@antipope.org>
    Newsgroups:   apana.lists.os.linux.redhat
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    Clif Smith wrote:
    >  I recently installed Red Hat 5.0, from cdrom. I'm a sorta' newbie to Linux
    > and Red Hat. I just grabbed the KDE beta2 files (and qt 1.3*) and installed
    > from glint in X-windows.
    >  Install seemed to go okay but I don't see KDE anywhere in the pop-up
    > window like Afterstep or fvwm is. So I need some direction in what to do
    > next.
    >  I have the same problem with TkDesk except I see it listed in the window
    > but can't get it to open.

    The KDE Beta-2 RPMs install the KDE kit in /opt/kde. _Everything_ goes
    there -- the install scripts don't mess with your X startup files, so it
    doesn't show up in the menus you get from AnotherLevel.

    There are at least four ways to run KDE Beta-2 on RedHat 5. Here's what
    I've discovered so far. These instructions (a) are based on personal
    exploration and may not be canonical, and (b) assume you are running
    bash as your login shell:

    1) Manual startup -- X not running

       First, set the environment variable KDEBASE to /opt/kde. You can do
       this by adding the following line to your .profile file, or to
       /etc/profile:

           export KDEBASE=/opt/kde

       Next, amend your PATH variable to add /opt/kde/bin:

           export PATH=$PATH:/opt/kde/bin

       (or edit it into PATH in /etc/profile)

       To launch KDE from a login shell (if X is not running):

           /opt/kde/bin/kdestart

       -- this fires up an X session and launches the basic KDE programs.

    2) Startup via the startx script:

       Set up the KDEBASE and PATH variables (as above).

       Copy /opt/kde/bin/kdestart to your home directory and rename it
       .xinitrc.

       Optionally, put the KDEBASE and PATH declarations in your new .xinitrc.

       To launch KDE from a login shell (X not running):

           startx

       -- note that this .xinitrc will replace all the AnotherLevel and
       TheNextLevel stuff.

    3) Login via KDM (the KDE alternative to XDM):

       Edit (as root) /etc/X11/xdm/Xsetup_0

       Comment out everything in this file below (but not including!) the
       first line, then append the following line:

           /opt/kde/bin/kdmdesktop

       Edit (as root) /etc/inittab.

       Look for the line:

           x:5:respawn:/usr/X11/bin/xdm -nodaemon

       Replace it with:

           x:5:respawn:/opt/kde/bin/kdm -nodaemon

       This tells init(8) to respawn KDM, the KDE display manager, when
       the system is in run level 5.

       To start KDM, either run (as root) /sbin/telinit 5 (to switch to
       run level 5), or (this is risky! don't do it until you _know_ you
       want the system to boot into this every time!) edit /etc/inittab
       and change the line:

           id:3:initdefault:

       to

           id:5:initdefault:

       If you do the latter step, then every time your system boots successfully
       it will go into run level 5 and run KDM, presenting you with the
       exceedingly cute KDE login screen.

       To edit the settings for KDM, as root edit the
       file /opt/kde/share/config/kdmrc. This lets you twiddle with things
       like the welcome message, background wallpaper, and users to allow
       login via KDM.

    4) Integrate KDE with AnotherLevel, so that users can switch between KDE
       and other window managers transparently.

       *** Someone else will need to do this -- the documentation is a little
           obscure ;-) ***

    -- Charlie Stross

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